与班戈商谈

Note: To progress the achievement and be able to talk to Bangar again, simply leave and re-enter the Eye of the North. First conversation - Check in with Bangar at the Eye of the North. ... So much destruction. Don't you have anything to say for yourself? Aurene: If he does, he can't say it. Unless Jormag chooses to use him, Bangar will need time for his throat to heal from his...transformation. I'll come back later, then. You'll have to talk eventually. After all, you're not going anywhere. Second conversation - Bangar's rebuke. (growls) Just because I can speak, doesn't mean I will. I think Jormag might have something to say about that one of these days. Bangar Ruinbringer: (growls) Third conversation - Bangar's ego. Commander. Bangar. I'd like to talk—unless you're still sulking. Bangar Ruinbringer: Came to check on my accomodations? Not to worry. Time of my life. Best cage I've ever been in. Plush. Bangar Ruinbringer: If you're here to gloat, though... you'll have to get in line behind the big blue dragon and my former protégé. Bangar Ruinbringer: Trust is in short supply at the moment. I get it. Believe me, I don't trust any of you either. Bangar Ruinbringer: On the other hand, if anyone's trust has been abused, it's mine. Did I lie? Did I ever break my word? Bangar Ruinbringer: I told everyone exactly what I wanted and what I would do to get it. That kind of candor is rare these days. Bangar Ruinbringer: And what thanks do I get? Jormag screws me over. Disfigures me! Hands the reins to my blazing apprentice... Bangar Ruinbringer: So you can wipe that self-superior look off your face. I'm the aggrieved party here. You don't get to judge me. Jormag and Ryland... How did THAT happen? Bangar Ruinbringer: I should've seen it coming. Kid turned out to be more ambitious than I realized. He learned from the best. Bangar Ruinbringer: And you people pushed him. His warband, Cinder. That was your big mistake. You made it personal. Bangar Ruinbringer: Or Smodur did. To Ryland? Distinction without a difference. You think Jormag always just meant to use you? Bangar Ruinbringer: I don't know... You asked me before this, I would have said no chance. No one "mind-controls" Bangar Ruinbringer. Bangar Ruinbringer: But the way it played out... Was there an inflection point, a specific moment when...? If there was, I didn't know. Bangar Ruinbringer: I never felt for one second like my mind wasn't my own. But... I heard the whispers. Maybe that's all it takes. Bangar Ruinbringer: Funny thing: anybody mentioned whispers to Ryland? He genuinely seemed to have no idea what they were on about. Bangar Ruinbringer: He might have been the one person Jormag DIDN'T whisper to. Yet Jormag chooses him... I think about that a lot. Bangar Ruinbringer: Jormag doesn't make you do anything. It doesn't have to. All it has to do is persuade you to want what it wants. Bangar Ruinbringer: And if you want it already? So much for the better. No need for whispers. Bangar Ruinbringer: At this point, I think that's as much insight into Ryland Steelcatcher as you're ever gonna get. [Walk away.] Fourth conversation - Rytlock speaks his mind. Rytlock Brimstone: Hey, Commander. I've got some things I need to say to the prisoner. You might as well stick around to hear them. [Rytlock Blames Bangar for Ryland] Rytlock Brimstone: How could you let this happen? Bangar Ruinbringer: Be more specific. Rytlock Brimstone: You know what I mean! How could you let Ryland do this? Bangar Ruinbringer: "Let Ryland"—? You were there; you heard it all. This was not the plan. Rytlock Brimstone: "The plan" so brilliant, you never even noticed my son was plotting against you? Bangar Ruinbringer: Got me there. I don't have an answer. Maybe I'm losing a step. Maybe I was too focused on creating a future for the charr. Rytlock Brimstone: You mean a future for yourself! Bangar Ruinbringer: Or maybe I was so busy seeing the Stoneglow in him...I forgot about the Brimstone. Rytlock Brimstone: The hell is that sup— Bangar Ruinbringer: I mean, you've clearly forgotten yourself. Charr don't have "sons," Rytlock. Crecia knows that. Everyone knows that. Bangar Ruinbringer: Everyone but you. Bangar Ruinbringer: You should have stayed gone. [Rytlock regrets staying away from the Homelands for so long.] Rytlock Brimstone: I shouldn't have stayed gone. I should've come back. A long time ago. Bangar Ruinbringer: You think that would've changed anything. Rytlock Brimstone: Couldn'ta hurt. Bangar Ruinbringer: You've been fraternizing with other races too long, Brimstone. We're charr. We don't do regret. Bangar Ruinbringer: We make choices, and we own them. Good or bad. We win, we take the glory; we lose, we take the shame. Bangar Ruinbringer: What we don't do is sit around agonizing for years about it. You've forgotten what it means to be charr. Rytlock Brimstone: Maybe you're right... Hold that thought. Fifth conversation - Aurene versus Jormag. Aurene: Champion, I sense a stronger presence around Bangar. Perhaps Jormag is ready to break their silence. It's about time. Let's see what the Elder Dragon has to say. Aurene: I would like to speak with Jormag. Bangar Ruinbringer: I don't take orders from you. Aurene: I'm afraid it's no longer your choice. Bangar Ruinbringer: The hell it— Voice of Jormag: Aurene, the dragon of prisms. Lovely as an ice crystal. It is nice to finally speak with you. Aurene: Jormag. The Dragon of Ice and Persuasion. You worked so hard to get them to wake you. Why? What is it you want? Voice of Jormag: What I've always wanted: to be free and to preserve Tyria. Aurene: You whisper to vulnerable minds—turn allies against each other. This one—your voice—you've practically made a slave. Voice of Jormag: Nothing was done that he did not invite upon himself. These weeks have shown you: I am not the enemy of your mortals. Voice of Jormag: I value this world, Aurene. Perhaps we two are more alike than you think. Aurene: I'm the youngest Elder Dragon, but I wasn't born yesterday. Voice of Jormag: Your fear and focus are misplaced. I am not driven to madness and mindless rampage like your grandfather. Aurene: (stunned silence) Voice of Jormag: I've hit a nerve. Apologies. We can continue this conversation another time. Aurene: Wait— Bangar Ruinbringer: I will kill that bastard. Aurene: I very much doubt that. I'm not quite ready to listen to Jormag. Sixth conversation - Jormag's secret. Aurene: I still haven't been able to pinpoint where Jormag has disappeared to, Champion. They're very adept at hiding themselves from me. That makes me nervous. I'd like to know what Jormag's planning. Aurene: Jormag, will you speak with us again? Bangar Ruinbringer: Don't do thi— Voice of Jormag: Mortals are curious creatures. Changed since the last time I was fully awake. Yet their lives are still so ephemeral. Pitiable. Aurene: You look down on them. That's a flaw. Voice of Jormag: Oh, there are some exceptions. I can see why you've bound yourself to your commander. Aurene: Not bound. Chosen, and reciprocated. Voice of Jormag: Yes. Yes, just so I suppose. I admit, now that I have one of my own, I understand the appeal of such a partnership. Aurene: So Ryland is still with you. Voice of Jormag: Of course. He's surprisingly easy to talk to—and an excellent strategist. Aurene: That's the opposite of reassuring. Voice of Jormag: It's been months since I awakened, and you still don't trust me. Aurene: You raised an army. I'm betting you raise one still. Voice of Jormag: An army led by my Champion. Just as you have. Aurene: And what do you plan to do with your Champion and your army? Voice of Jormag: Guard the future. And my freedom. I am not the threat, Aurene. Focus your attention on what is coming. Not on me. Bangar Ruinbringer: (growls) Bangar Ruinbringer: Frigid lizard is scared. Aurene: Of us? Bangar Ruinbringer: Not likely. And knowing what it is won't change the fact that they're playing you, like a fiddle. Aurene: You would know. I'll be back later. Seventh conversation - Crecia weighs in. Crecia Stoneglow: Commander. I've got some choice words for my former imperator. [Crecia's gloves are off.] Crecia Stoneglow: I didn't trust you before, and I sure as hell don't trust you now. Give me one good reason not to kill you. Bangar Ruinbringer: Maybe you weren't paying attention, but the Ice Dragon stuck this thing on me. Apparently I'm its spokes-charr. Crecia Stoneglow: Yeah, I'm pretty sure if Jormag needs to talk to us, they'll find a way to do it, with or without you. Try again. Bangar Ruinbringer: I know Ryland better than anyone. Better than you; far better than Brimstone. I can tell you what he's likely to do. Crecia Stoneglow: Recent events suggest otherwise. Last chance. Bangar Ruinbringer: My sparkling wit... Bangar Ruinbringer: You'd miss me. Crecia Stoneglow: I already miss you. I've missed you for months. The mentor who taught me half of all I know? That charr, I mourn. Not you. Crecia Stoneglow: You I just pity. [Crecia needs answers.] Crecia Stoneglow: What happened to you, Bangar? Were you always like this? Was I just blind to it? Bangar Ruinbringer: "Like" what? "Blind to" what? Crecia Stoneglow: The hate. The sociopathy. Flames, you murdered Almorra! Bangar Ruinbringer: She wanted to stop me. Crecia Stoneglow: She told you the truth! Time was, you expected that. From me at least. Bangar Ruinbringer: Everything I did, I did for the charr. Crecia Stoneglow: Yeah... You keep telling yourself that. While I clean up your mess. [Crecia cuts to the chase.] Crecia Stoneglow: So Jormag can speak to us through you. Bangar Ruinbringer: That seems to be the idea. Crecia Stoneglow: Does that cut both ways? Say we want to talk to Jormag? We just say whatever it is to you, and Jormag hears it? Bangar Ruinbringer: You're assuming it gave me an instruction manual. I have no flaming idea. Crecia Stoneglow: Let's try it. JORMAG! Elder Dragon of Ice and Persuasion! I request an audience! Crecia Stoneglow: I am Crecia Stoneglow, Imperator of the Blood Legion! Will you parley? Crecia Stoneglow: So it's a one-way thing. Bangar Ruinbringer: I'm the Voice of Jormag. Not the Ears of Jormag. Or maybe it just doesn't care what you have to say. That sounds personal. I'll leave you to it. Eighth conversation - Jormag's enemy Aurene: Champion, the energies deep beneath Tyria are churning. At first the shift was so quiet I hardly noticed. But it's growing—and I'm afraid this is just the beginning. Yeah, it's hard to miss the earthquakes now. Jormag's got to be involved. Aurene: Jormag, we need to— Voice of Jormag: I've been waiting for you. I can be patient, Aurene, but I hope you'll be quicker to act in the days ahead. Aurene: Primordus. Voice of Jormag: His hunger will grow as he stirs. Destruction is not far off. You and your Champion have already seen signs. Aurene: You knew this would happen, but you still chose to impose your waking—and Primordus's—on the world. Voice of Jormag: And you chose not to intervene. Despite your power and potential, you left it to mortals. Aurene: It's their world as much as mine. There was nothing to be gained— Voice of Jormag: Oh, little sister, how wrong you are. Careful you don't learn the lesson too late. Aurene: So then you kill him. Voice of Jormag: That time will come, but not yet. My twin will awake. And he will set the world ablaze. Voice of Jormag: Look to that world, Aurene. Very soon you will have to make a choice—if you're to have any chance of saving it. Bangar Ruinbringer: (growls) I need a moment to prepare myself for serious talk.

1. Check in with Bangar at the Eye of the North.

2. Bangar's rebuke.

3. Bangar's ego.

4. Rytlock speaks his mind.

5. Aurene versus Jormag.

6. Jormag's secret.

7. Crecia weighs in.